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  • COILOVERS.....YES!!!! and they are installed............

    Yes you can put coilovers on a Malibu/G6, I have them on my SS right now. Of course there are some changes and parts needed to do this but it can be done fairly easily by anyone. I will try to break down my explanation into sections so hopefully it will be easier to follow and I will have pictures posted shortly that will also help. So lets begin:

    1) The coilovers you need to get are for the Saab 9-3 Sedan (2004-07)

    2) I know of three manufacturers of coilovers for the Saab 9-3. They are
    KW ; Megan Racing; Ksport

    3) The KW’s are by far the most expensive, the body of the struts and the rear shocks are made in stainless steel. KW coilovers for the Saab come in two versions which are called Variant-1 and Variant-2. They have only one difference. The V-2 has an adjustment feature for the rebound control. In other words you can vary how stiff the strut is. Both versions use the same springs, hardware and allow you to adjust the ride height in front / rear. The Megan and Ksport come in only one version as far as I know.

    4) To install the KW’s (not the Megan or Ksport) in front you need to use the Saab 9-3 strut bearing and strut bearing plate. I will give the part numbers later as well as the photo.

    5) The Megan and Ksport front coilovers come with upper “pillow-ball” mounts. Using these coilovers does NOT require you to use the Saab strut bearing and bearing plate since the pillowball mount replaces these items.

    6) While the front units from all three companies are a true coilover, the rear is not. All three companies make a separate spring and shock for the rear. So its’ not a true coilover for the rear. They all do include an adjustment perch that mounts to their rear spring and allows you to adjust the ride height / amount of drop.

    7) I will now tell you the biggest problem (actually it is not) and I have not yet gotten around to solving. The rear shocks that you will get in the coilover set (from any of the three) will not bolt up to our cars. While the bottom of the rear shock is the same as our cars, the Saab uses a different bracket for the top of the rear shock and cannot be easily adapted-YET. I am working on it. So I left the stock rear shocks on. But keeping the stock rear shock has been fine and I have no problems with my set up with the KW’s. I tried to get the companies to sell a coilover set without the rear shocks but none would brake up the set. You have to buy the whole kit. At worst you have a set of new rear shocks for a Saab 9-3 (maybe try to sell?). But more importantly, the rear springs and adjustable perch provided in the coilover set does mount right up to our cars. SO in the back the only thing missing is the shock.

    Keep in mind that when you check each of these three brands out they will list a range of ride heights. In other words you will find measurements listed telling you what the minimum drop is and what the maximum drop is. For example the KW’s will lower the car a minimum of 1.2 inches to a maximum 2.3 inches in front. But the Megan coilovers can be set to give the stock ride height (a minimum drop that is actually no drop) to a couple of inches of drop maximum (I don’t know the exact maximum drop right now)

    9) In addition to the Saab parts I mentioned you also need six bolts (three each side) to bolt the coilovers into the top of the strut tower (again I will post a picture). These bolts are used to bolt the Saab strut bearing plate (which is mounted on top of the KW coilover) into the front strut tower. The G6/Malibu uses a strut bearing plate and strut bearing but they are different than the Saab ones. So if you get KW’s you need to use the Saab parts as mentioned above.

    10) You also need to enlarge two of the three holes on each side (the bolts mentioned above go here) that the front struts bolt up to in the tower. If you open your engine hood and look at the top of the strut tower you will see three bolts forming a “V” pattern. For whatever reason the Saab and the G6 have a slight difference in the spacing of the bolts. One bolt hole will match up, the other two will be slightly off and you need to enlarge the other two holes about one-eight of an inch. A “rat tail” file will make easy work of this and takes about 5 minutes to do each side. While I had to do this using the KW’s (which use the Saab strut bearing plate) you will have to do this step with the Megan’s and the Ksport too. Again I will post photos.

    11) The final modification has to do with the rubber brake line in front and how it is mounted to the strut. The Saab and G6 use different little brackets which just hold the rubber brake line in place and I found an very easy solution that is best explained when I post the photo.

    12) Keep in mind that coilovers are going to give VERY responsive ride and handling with a sacrifice in ride comfort. If you have a “home warden” that sits in the front passenger seat you best check on this.

    13) I suggest that anyone who is seriously thinking of doing this that they research all three brands like I did. DO NOT JUST TAKE WHAT I HAVE POSTED ABOVE AND WHAT I POST LATER AS YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF INFO. This is only a brief explanation to get you started and help you decide if this is the route you want to go. How well this turns out for you depends on the install and what brand you choose (remember I only have the KW’s). Also research enough so you know what coilovers are!!! Don’t just slap these puppies on because you heard they are the “in” thing.

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    pics that mike can edit in to his original post:






















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      wow

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      • #4
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        ^^^what he said...
        2008 GT Coupe

        Originally posted by jgarcia05
        Damn, you cought me....he is rather handsome....

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        • #5
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          I thought I was going to be jealous of the coil-overs.. and I was, but that was until the last pic. Awesome, man.
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            Wow Awesome

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              total cost?

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              • #8
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                initiative! i love it!

                now just to figure out how to mount the rears...

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                  my dear god...
                  2006 Malibu Maxx SS


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                  • #10
                    Re: COILOVERS.....YES!!!! and they are installed............

                    Cost......the Saab strut bearing plate is $71ea. and the strut bearing is about $32ea. You need two of both.
                    the KW's: Variant 1 lists for approx. 1500/can get them for approx 1100
                    Variant 2 lists for approx 1950/can get them for approx 1475

                    the Megan Coilovers can be found on ebay (search for saab coilover) and the best there is $825 which
                    is not a bad price

                    the Ksport are also on ebay (you will find these in the same search) and go for about $950

                    Like I mentioned in the info above te Megan and Ksport have pillowball mounts. You would not need to get the Saab parts.

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                    • #11
                      Re: COILOVERS.....YES!!!! and they are installed............

                      Remember the only thing that was not mounted up is the rear shocks. The more important parts-the rear spring and its adjustable spring perch are in and work just fine.

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                        Nice work!


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                        • #13
                          Re: COILOVERS.....YES!!!! and they are installed............

                          when you said you installed the yellow koni (i think?) struts, did you not manage to get those on the back either? does it look like an adapter plate would be able to solve this problem or are the bolt patterns so rediculously different that there's no chance? so you can drop your car more than it is? or raise it back up some? that's awesome... there is some hope for our cars!

                          also a quick check, they do not make a rear coilover set, its just a combined strut/spring set, right? when you were in there did it look like there was the possibility of getting rid of that and going to strait rear coilovers?

                          if i ever get the money for a set of megans i'll work on an adapter plate for the rears...but i'm super low on cash at the moment. but after i recover from what i just spent my money on this will be my next mod for sure.

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                          • #14
                            Re: COILOVERS.....YES!!!! and they are installed............

                            You are confusing the Koni's with the KW coilovers and how they work. Just before installing the coilovers I had put on the Koni Yellow Sport Struts., I had them on for not quite a month. All the info above is in regards to KW COILOVERS and not the Koni's. The Koni Yellow Sports are NOT coilovers. I tried the Koni's first before the coilovers. I put Koni's in the front only. The Koni's where for the Saab. I did not get the rear Koni shocks because they would present the same problem of not fitting due to the different way the top of the rear shock mounts up. As you can see I have been trying performance parts made for the Saab 9-3 and adapting them to the Malibu/G6. So no matter coilovers or Koni Yellow Sports, the rear shock does not fit. Well not now until some adapter is figured out.

                            Koni does not make a coilover set for the Saab, at least as far as i have found. The three I know of are posted in the beginning of this thread (see above). Koni makes Yellow Sport struts and shocks for the Saab 9-3. Shocks and struts do not raise or lower the car, the springs do that. I will at some point start a thread on the Koni's I used and the experience I had with them and the springs that were used with the Koni's. In short the springs I decided to use with the Koni's were not right and dropped the car too much. Not satisfied with the car I looked for an alternative and knnew from my experience that the Saab 9-3 coilovers could fit. So I went that route.

                            So you do not get confused remember this-our cars use struts in the front only. The rear uses shocks. While shocks and struts have similiar functions they are not the same. A simplied description of the difference is that the strut mounts the spring on itself and becomes a single unit.

                            Also like I mention above, none of the three brands of coilovers make a true coilover for the rear, the spring and shock are separate. Look at the posted pics closely and you will see in th ephotos of the rear spring a purple spring perch on top of the rear spring. This perch is threaded and allows you to adjsut the rear ride height. Also in the pics is a shot of the top of the rear shock and how it bolts to the car. This is the attachment that is different from the Saab.

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                            • #15
                              Re: COILOVERS.....YES!!!! and they are installed............

                              very nice man

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